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Ponzitracker will be providing a live recap of today's scheduled hearing on the 10+ motions brought in the TelexFree Bankruptcy case in the Nevada Bankruptcy Court.  The hearing starts at 12:30 EST.  Updates will follow.  For previous Ponzitracker coverage of TelexFree, click here.  For an explanation of what's at stake in today's hearing, click here.  

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12:20 P.M.: U.S. Trustee just filed amended declaration of Sheriff's Deputy present at TelexFree's Massachusetts office when search warrant was executed.  Declaration has color copies of checks seized from former CFO Joe Craft.  Declaration is here.

12:25 P.M.: More motions appear on docket.  One is request for admittance to practice in Nevada Bankruptcy court by an attorney representing two "creditors."  Docket may be quite crowded if all creditors' counsel follow suit.  Motion is here.

12:32 P.M.: Background music still playing.

12:35 P.M.: Hearing appears to be close to starting.  

12;44 P.M.: Participants asked to turn off cell phones.  Hearing beginning.

12:47 P.M.: Court in session. 14 Matters before the Court.

12:50 P.M.: Attorney introductions starting.  

12:51 P.M.: Gordon Silver and Greenberg Traurig for TelexFree.  One GT lawyer is out in hall working on "late developments."

12:52 P.M.: SEC wants to approach bench to discuss "late developments" and provide Court with documents.  SEC will consent to District Court entering final orders and judgments for motions except to First Day Motions (if it gets that far).  

12:54 P.M.:  Late development appears to be related to SEC's belief that this case should not be Chapter 11 case.  Reading between the lines, could be Chapter 7 case (liquidation).

12:54 P.M.: Attorneys for at least two sets of victims making appearances.

12:55 P.M.: "Late-breaking developments" have emerged.  Attorneys to brief court.  

12:55 P.M.: Debtor's attorney handed civil forfeiture action appearing to be commenced by U.S. Attorney's Office.  His attorney's belief is that not appropriate to talk about at the moment.  Party that sought civil forfeiture action does not appear to be before court, so TelexFree attorney says is not appropriate to discuss.  

12:57 P.M.: TelexFree counsel says papers appear to be subpoenas and warrants in connection with civil forfeiture action commenced by U.S. Attorneys Office.  Concern is over evidentiary nature of papers.  Counsel doesn't believe it impacts today's proceedings.  Thinks it is "unfair" to have SEC say this impacts motions before the Court.  Or "this collective effort by the Government to shut us down will kill us."

12:59 P.M.: SEC counsel says Court can take judicial notice.  Says there was civil and criminal forfeiture action.  26 warrants in support of forfeiture acts, have all been filed.

1:00 P.M.: SEC says they are asset forfeiture actions, do not violate automatic stay under Chapman (cited by TelexFree).  These actions seized all known assets for debtors, including cashier's checks.

1:01 P.M.: Anything subject to debtor's estate has been seized by U.S. Attorney's Office.

1:02 P.M.: Court will not consider papers in connection with rulings on pending matters, and not inclined to take papers into evidence.  Judge now reviewing papers.  

1:03 P.M.: Warrants were apparently under seal.  Court says record will not include this, and won't be considered as evidence.  Reviewed simply to be mindful of actions going on in Massachusetts court.

1:04 P.M.: Court will take short break - about 15 minutes - to review documents.  Court will hear SEC's Motion for Change of Venue first.  Notice of Hearing regarding abstention second.  Debtors' motion for scope of TRO next.  Then U.S. Trustee's Motion for Appointment of Trustee will be heard.  If there is time, First-Day Motions will be heard.  Court doubtful to be able to rule today.  But will rule on all matters that will be appropriate to resolve by Monday at the latest.  Debtor needs to know, as well as other people.  Court will not delay in resolving issues.  Resolution thus likely at beginning of next week.

1:06 P.M.: Massachusetts sheriff's deputy is present by phone,  Court says he does not need to appear unless there are plans to cross-examine deputy.  Court will adjourn and reconvene at 1:25 P.M. EST.

1:25 P.M.: Looks to be getting underway shortly.

1:27 P.M.: Court in session.  Court reviewed documents, issued in Massachusetts District Court on April 24, 2014 and unsealed recently (today?).  Copies are not certified or authenticated.  Court does not take judicial notice, and won't consider as evidence today.

1:30 P.M.: TelexFree counsel says that, if you transfer this case, stay motion has to be heard to decide whether debtor lives or dies.

1:31 P.M.: Court will proceed first with motion to transfer venue.

Evidence And Exhibits

1:34 P.M.: TelexFree wants to have evidence heard first, Court agrees as does SEC.  SEC wants to call TelexFree officers first,  U.S. Trustee wants to have sheriff's deputy heard first.

1:38 P.M.: TelexFree counsel complaining of non-compliance with local rules regarding witnesses and evidence by SEC.

1:42 P.M.: Appears that sheriff's deputy will not testify, and his declaration and amended declaration will be admitted into evidence.  Links are here and here. Witness excused.

1:48 P.M.: More evidentiary housekeeping.  Counsel for TelexFree opposes admission of SEC affidavit because affiant is not available to testify.

1:52 P.M.: Argument continuing over admission of evidence and submission of witness/exhibit lists.  

1:53 P.M.: Court recognizes flexibility of local rules when matters on shortened time, will not admit one of the declarations as hearsay, other will be allowed to testify as he is available.

1:57 P.M.: Going over admission of exhibits by debtors, SEC, and U.S. Trustee.

2:02 P.M.: U.S. Trustee objects to exhibit 21, which is exchange of emails contained in MacMillan declaration regarding $38 million in cashier's checks seized.  Exhibits 1-20 will come in.  Debtors' witness list is here.  Exhibit 21 will be subject to developing testimony, will remain out.

2:07 P.M.: Witness testimony is up next.

2:10 P.M.: Now to order of witness testimony.  Witnesses remaining to be called are William Runge, Stuart McMillan, and Timothy Meighan on rebuttal.

William Runge Testimony

2:10 P.M.: First witness will be William Runge.  Runge is Chief Restructuring Office of TelexFree.  Works with Alvarez & Marshal.

2:13 P.M.: Covering Runge's background and C.V.  Runge has been doing this for 22 years.

2:15 P.M.: Initially contacted by TelexFree attorneys on April 9, 2014 to interview for position. Interviewed the next day with Wanzeler, Merrill, and McMillan.  Was engaged later that afternoon on the 10th.  Understood role was to assist through bankruptcy and guide company through Chapter 11 process.

2:17 P.M.: Meighan is also A&M employee, working with Runge to understand business, locate assets, and develop business plan.

2:19 P.M.: Debtor had 6 bank accounts, 5 brokerages, and 6 or more merchant accounts.  Wells Fargo had informed TelexFree it was closing account and asked it to come pick up Cashiers Check in amount of $26 million.

2:20 P.M.: Understood additional 9-10 checks existed.  Said debtor had difficulties maintaining relationships with banks.

2:21 P.M.: Made arrangements for Craft to pick up cashier's checks and deposit into newly-established escrow account.  Meighan was arranging to go with Craft to deposit checks.

2:24 P.M.: Attempting to provide foundation for entry of Exhibit 21 (emails regarding cashier's checks).  Says federal government seized Meighan's email, imaged hard drive, and returned.

2:25 P.M.: Checks were collected from Merrill and Wanzeler Monday morning with intention of placing in safe deposit box.

2:26 P.M.: Checks never placed into safe deposit box.  Says Craft was tied up and delayed in depositing checks that Monday.

2:28 P.M.: Runge got called by Meighan and told they were preparing to leave office, but were stopped by federal agent and belongings were seized.

2:31 P.M.: U.S. Trustee objects to admission of Exhibit 21, says Meighan is there to testify and can be put on.

2:34 P.M.: Court sustains objection to introduction of Exhibit 21 based on hearsay, Runge can still testify as to personal knowledge.

2:36 P.M.: No reason to believe Mr. Craft was trying to steal checks.  Exhibit 21 offered in its entirety into evidence.  Court still sustains objection to entering Exhibit 21 into evidence, but Mr. Meighan will be allowed to testify to remove hearsay issues.

2:39 P.M.: Runge says there is a business here to reorganize, a VoIP business where bundled minutes are sold.  Phone service is "partially" working.  When TRO was filed and assets (servers) were seized, service stopped.  Company was eventually able to get partial service working.

2:41 P.M.: Have had discussions with U.S. Attorney's Office over retrieving servers.

2:43 P.M.: Some customers have been able to make long distance calls.  TelexFree not able to accept credit cards or any funds, nor in position to sell phone service.  Website is partially running.  Sole function of website is to provide information to 700,000 promoters.

2:45 P.M.: Runge thinks it would take matter of weeks to come up with new business plan.  Asked about whether bankruptcy is better or worse than marshaling assets for benefit of creditors.  Multiple objections.

2:47 P.M.: New compensation consultant retained, has been working with MacMillan on compensation.  No further questions.  SEC to cross-examine.

SEC Cross of Runge

2:49 P.M.: Runge says not aware why banks shut down TelexFree.  Runge hasn't encountered such a situation before.

2:52 P.M.: Runge didn't authorize Craft to tell agents he was consultant, or for Craft to put checks in briefcase and walk out.

2:54 P.M.: Court preparing to break for lunch.  Looking for input from parties as to likelihood of completion of hearing in afternoon session.  Parties believe so.  Court will reconvene at 4:15 EST.

4:18 P.M.: Instructions given to turn off cell phones.  Proceedings to begin soon.  Before they do, please feel free to click the donate button at the bottom of the screen, and any donations are much appreciated.  The cost to connect to the hearing is $30/hr.

4:27 P.M.: Technical difficulties interrupt Runge's testimony.  

4:30 P.M.: Runge expecting chargebacks from creditcard processors as result of bankruptcy.

4:32 P.M.: Cross-examining Runge about his declaration.  He admits that, of the debtors, only one had direct employees.

4:33 P.M.: Merrill and Wanzeler hired MacMillan, who hired Runge.  Neither Merrill nor Wanzeler currently employed by Debtors, but remain sole shareholders.

4:36 P.M.: As of bankruptcy filing, Runge estimates balance in Debtors' accounts: $31 million in bank accounts, $28 million in brokerage accounts, and close to $30 million with payment processors.  None of these accounts located in bank located in Nevada.

4:38 P.M.: Runge was working at company headquarters until raid, and then moved back to Georgia.  No duties performed in Nevada.

4:39 P.M.: Runge being questioned about company's questions to Nevada.  As far as Runge knows, only connection is papers on file with Nevada government and a mailbox.

4:42 P.M.: SEC lawyer grilling Runge methodically to prove lack of ties to Nevada, as well as offices of professionals employed by TelexFree. 

4:44 P.M.: Runge being questioned about TelexFree's business and compensation plan.  Learned state of Massachusetts was investigating around April 10, 2014 - 5 days before charges were filed.

4:45 P.M.: Asked whether TelexFree could have upgraded its computer systems due to revenues received from purported significant growth, without entering bankruptcy.  

4:47 P.M.: Point made that company had already changed its compensation plan once without filing for bankruptcy.

4:49 P.M.: Company had computer system that managed payment information referred to as back office that was hard to get information out of. 

4:51 P.M.: Books Runge reviewed showed that $1 billion in revenue came in the door in 2013.  

4:53 P.M.: Runge's firm was in the process of imaging TelexFree's systems as the company's headquarters were raided on April 15, 2014.

4:54 P.M.: Discussing TelexFree's issues with Brazil.  Understood Brazilian government shut it down.  Runge thinks Brazilian government thought it was some kind of scheme.  Doesn't recall whether it was accused of being a pyramid scheme.

4:55 P.M.: Runge understands revenues from second compensation plan showed that new plan had payouts of 50-85%.  Generally, need payout of 38-40%.  Payout was too high.  Runge disclosed this rule of thumb was from MacMillan and various consultants.

4:59 P.M.: Runge never reviewed marketing materials and what TelexFree was promoting.  Runge is not aware of specific differences between first and second compensation plan. 

5:00 P.M.: Promoters tried to withdraw $174 million in payments after rule change, which was much higher than normal.  Company did not majority of payment requests.

5:01 P.M.: Company became aware some individuals had multiple accounts, sometimes hundreds, which was forbidden under the contract.  Runge doesn't recall who told him that, and doesn't have personal knowledge.

5:06 P.M.: Actual sales of VoIP product since March rule change are unknown.  $100,000 to $300,000 per day in revenue coming in, according to Runge, after rule change.

5:08 P.M.: Runge reluctant to speculate about future of contracts with Promoters ir whether all or specific amount will be deemed valid.

5:10 P.M.: Prior to April 13th, Runge was not provided with estimation of total amount of contracts at stake that would seek to be rejected.  SEC asks if he had heard figure of $5 billion.  Runge said he had heard someone say $5 billion, but cannot remember.  Says possibly from company's prior management, but cannot recall.

5:13 P.M.: Runge not aware of any secured creditors, or of any potential fraudulent transfer or conveyance actions.

5:14 P.M.: Speaking about whether Runge agrees with fact that Debtors offer competitive product priced advantageously to competitors.  Runge doesn't know who direct competitors are to company.  Seems to be trying to draw Runge into debate about price.

5:16 P.M.: All promoter products held in name of TelexFree, LLC.  Not sure why other two debtors list same top creditors.

5:18 P.M.: Names of top 30 creditors were discussed among Runge and company management to confirm there were no insiders.  End of SEC questioning.

U.S. Trustee Cross-Examination

5:19 P.M.: MacMillan hired as consultant several weeks before company filed bankruptcy.

5:21 P.M.: Runge was present at board meeting immediately before bankruptcy.  Wanzeler was terminated from company after it was apparent he was subject to restraining order.  Says they were asked to resign.

5:24 P.M.: Runge was informed that company was spending hundreds of millions of dollars to buyback VoIP products from promoters.  

5:27 P.M.: Runge not aware how many VoIP packages were sold to general public.

5:27 P.M.: As a result of rolling out new comp plans, compant revenues declined from $3 million per day to $100,000 to $300,000 per day - a 90% decrease.  Was determined that new compensation plan was not sustainable.

5:32 P.M.: Craft had been working with Wanzeler and Merrill for two years as a consultant.

Redirect by TelexFree

5:34 P.M.: Runge has met with attorneys from Debtors' counsel in Nevada. No more questions, witness excused.

Stuart MacMillan Testimony

5:37 P.M.: Court issues warning about cellphone use.

5:38 P.M.: Court says that .mp3 file of testimony will be available free at some point.  Ponzitracker will provide a link to that if/when it becomes available.

5:40 P.M.: Reviewing MacMillan C.V.

5:41 P.M.: Originally asked whether he wanted to be CEO, but decided he wanted to be consultant originally.  Became CEO in April 2014 just before filing.

5:43 P.M.: MacMillan lives in Florida, and office is in Florida. 

5:43 P.M.: Craft was assisting with bankruptcy in compiling numbers needed.  Craft was then a signatory and able to open bank accounts.

5:44 P.M.:  MacMillan is only independent board member.

5:45 P.M.: MacMillan and Runge decided it would be best if people named in TRO would not be officers or directrs.  Craft and Merrill resigned, Wanzeler did not and was terminated.

5:46 P.M.: MacMillan working with another network marketing executive in compiling business plan.  Have also brought in telecom consultant, as well as application creators.  Trying to put together plan and looking at new products to develop strategy as well as compensation strategy.

5:48 P.M.: In his view, company is absolutely capable of being reorganized.  Describes an app that was released and quickly rose to top 5 of apps.

5:49 P.M.: Would appear that minutes over network were increasing 20% each month.  14 million minutes.   Last data he saw was that 80,000 to 100,000 people were using minutes.

5:51 P.M.: Working on short-term compensation plan.  Once servers are back, should take about a month to have new compensation plan.  75% of customers are outside of United States, and are in South America, Asia, Europe, etc.  Larger concertration in Western Europe, Asia, and Dominican Republic.

5:53 P.M.: Promoters and associates are similarly located due to pattern of selling to friends and family.  Does not know what percentage of customers in Massachusetts.  Has not made decision about location of headquarters going forward, but had thought about Florida.  Two places that make most sense are Nevada and Florida.

5:55 P.M.: Believe that, based on 80,000 people selling 14 million minutes a month, should be in $50 million range of revenue right away. Company has received tens of thousands of phone calls from customers.  Many can't figure out why they can't use products.

SEC Cross

5:59 P.M.: MacMillan loves network marketing.

6:00 P.M.: MacMillan doesn't understanding advertising aspect, says it is inconsistent with what he understands network marketing to be. No idea of correlation between ads placed and revenue.

6:01 P.M.: Had no role in changing compensation plan or rolling it out.

6:01 P.M.:  This is not first case MacMillan has heard of with SEC enforcement action involved with allegations of pyramid scheme.  Understands there are things to be careful of, such as payment of commission dollars for product or service.

6:03 P.M.:  MacMillan only aware that Wells Fargo had told TelexFree to go elsewhere, and had heard that other banks and payment processors had told TelexFree to take their business elsewhere.  Happened fairly regularly with payment processors.

6:04 P.M.: As to $1 billion in revenue during 2013, MacMillan says he was told by Craft.  Number was not broken down any further.

6:08 P.M.: Company currently using AMazon cloud services to operate website.  Has been happening over last week.

6:10 P.M.: Understanding is that Mr. Craft didn't try to walk out of office with checks.  Instead, his understanding is that checks were in briefcase and Mr. Craft was going to get the checks.

6:11 P.M.: Discussing promoter contracts.  Standard form contract.  Before execution of search warrant, MacMillan had never looked at the contract.  

6:16 P.M.: Talking about backup database - what A&M were able to image before search warrant executed.  

6:18 P.M.: Agrees that number of promoters in Nevada is less than number in Massachusetts.  Suggests that data enabled MacMillan to analyze location of every customer or promoter.

6:20 P.M.: Company hasn't been trying to recruit new promoters since filing.

6:22 P.M.: Each VoIP contract had maximum of 3,000 minutes of use per month. 

6:23 P.M.: Comp plans are lifeblood of marketing companies.  This was running "hot," and running at 80% and did not make sense.  Typically run 38% - 45%.  And advertisement issue did not make sense.  Did not have knowledge about breakdown between promoter purchases and third-party purchases.

6:25 P.M.: MacMillan doesn't have a problem with promoters using commission money to purchase VoIP products.  SEC lawyer questions whether that means new money is coming in.

6:27 P.M.: Trying to get handle on trailing liabilities (obligations to promoters) in March after new compensation plan.  

6:29 P.M.: Getting into pricing of TelexFree to competitors.  Network marketing exec working with MacMillan said he was excited about product.  MacMillan optimistic because this exec is optimistic. Knows six were listed, but MacMillan does not know of them.  MacMillan keeps touting availability of app as key competitive advantage.

6:33 P.M.: MacMillan understood top 30 creditors listed on all three bankruptcy petitions because companies were to be rolled into one.  Not aware of total liabilities.  MacMillan sat around table with customer service and finance person to inquire about whether top 30 creditors had connection to business.  Wanzeler wasn't there, and Merrill was asked.  Raised issue that several of top 30 have addresses in Coconut Beach, where Wanzeler is located.  MacMillan is unaware of relationship, if any.

6:36 P.M.: No explanation for drastic increase in payment requests following roll-out of new plan.  Understood that entry rate to be promoter in new plan was 10% of what old plan required to be promoter.

6:38 P.M.:  No secured creditors or real property, as far as MacMillan knows.  Agrees that vast majority of creditors are promoters.  Understanding that company is trying to set aside all promoter obligations to investigate. MacMillan agrees it is standard form contract.

6:42 P.M.: Talking about furniture in call center for 30 people.  MacMillan says it is substantial amount of furniture.  Not sure if servers owned or leased.  MacMillan says that he believes there is a ptent on the app.

6:46 P.M.: TelexFree app had 16,000 downloads in first five days.  Not sure if any new customers from introduction of app.

U.S. Trustee Cross-Examination

6:48 P.M.: Delving into why MacMillan is not the one providing sworn testimony in support of first-day motions.

6:50 P.M.: MacMillan knows there was a reasonableness cap, but doesn't know the exact amount of minutes that was the cap.

6:51 P.M.: Bases projection of $50 million in revenue based on 80,000 - 90,000 members paying $49.90 per month.

6:54 P.M.: Discussing resignations and terminations referenced on April 17.  When MacMillan received TRO, he discussed with Runge and then asked for resignations.  MacMillan asked all three to resign because he decided it wasn't in best interests of company for them to remain involved after issuance of TRO.  Craft's role with company was doing taxes.  No more questions.  Witness excused.

7:00 P.M.: Court will take 10-minute break, and will resume in ten minutes.

7:10 P.M.: Going back on shortly.  To those who have made donations, thank you!  The expected bill for this call will be several hundred dollars.  

7:13 P.M.: Court back in session.  Meighan still left, and Exhibit 21 not in evidence.  Meighan called as a witness.

Tim Meighan Direct by TelexFree

7:15 P.M.: Testimony starts with email exchange in Exhibit 21.  Meighan recognizes emails.  Assisted in collection of emails, they came from his firm-issued computer.  Setting foundation for admission of Exhibit 21.  Offered into evidence.  Court wants to know why TelexFree wants Exhibit 21 into evidence, and TelexFree says to prove that A&M directed efforts.  Court will allow entry of Exhibit 21, finding that Meighan either authored or received emails.  Objection is overruled, and court will accord appropriate weight.

7:24 P.M.: Had several conversations with Mr. Craft about depositing checks.  Meighan wanted to go before lunch, Craft wanted to go after.  Ended up not going.

7:29 P.M.: Federal agents arrived around 2:00 P.M.  Walked around with agents, and Meighan told them he was consultant hired to help company prep for bankruptcy.  Says he explained who he was, gave him A&M business card.  Said his laptop was his.  Federal agents said it was grounds for being searched.  Waited around until 5:00 P.M.  Does not recall Craft running out with checks or with briefcase.  Agents did not threaten Mr. Craft or try to restrain him.  Meighan was with Craft most of the time.

No SEC Cross.

U.S. Trustee Cross

7:33 P.M.: Meighan testifies there were a few times he wasn't with Craft during times agents executed search warrant.  No more questions.

No redirect.  Witness excused.

7:35 P.M.: Court looking to firm up evidentiary record.  Nothing further added by Debtor.  Nothing from SEC or U.S. Trustee.  Record closed with respect to evidence.

Court will take input from parties as to whether moving forward will involve argument.  Debtor ready to proceed today.  SEC willing to rest on papers with venue motion.  Same with abstention.  Not sure, given all evidence, that argument is necessary.

Court asking Debtor how long will be needed for argument.

Ponzitracker will be concluding coverage at this point, as the cell phone carrying the call is about to shut off due to low battery.  I will monitor the court docket and report any updates at that time.

Thank you.


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Are you at the hearings in person? Your work here is so much appreciated.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentercarlos

I appreciate YOU for doing this as well....I almost feel as though I'm there...So many people affected by this. Devastated Financially. Thank You

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJolene

Thank you - I am dialed in through a paid service available to lawyers. Donations are appreciated to cover this cost.

May 2, 2014 | Registered CommenterJordan D. Maglich

Thanks for the News in Real Time. We Waiting Forward to Italy....

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterLuca Ponzi

how do you log on and pay 30 dollars to listen myself

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterdan

not sure if your talking to me but I just wanted to hear it for my self or is all this being made up here which would be BS totally

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterdan

don't you see ???? chapter 11... filing. They new is was time to run and not be responsible. trying to get away. if you see, telexfree is with problems in a lot of countries. Why????
bottom line they just want to take your money and run. compensate you for a little bit so you can get more people until they reach a point and run.. like now.. but they got busted. I hope someone goes to jail. I feel for the families, and I pray the get their money back..

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterja

Dan - the phone line is for lawyers

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commenterzoe

when will the mp3 audio be available?

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterAlex

Is this guy nuts? Nobody was selling or using VoIP outside of the network and most was being bought back by company. All usage was between promoters in foreign countries. Nobody outside of the network would pay $49.95 to use when Skype and others are 1/3 that price. They never had 70,000 VoIP customers because they only sold 1.2 million in 2 years. He is delusional due to the 50K monthly stipend he is contracted for.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentercarlos

In the Dominican Republic there are more than 150,000 account holders but only 20 people have complaint about Telexfree in front of our justice. So make your own conclusion. I pay from my mobile phone down here 75 dollars a month only having 300 minutes to talk locally and a very poor internet connection. Nobody calls our telephone companies in the DR are thieves. So the VOIP 99Telexfree was very useful for us and we need it back. I was even cancelling my plan with my local telephone company. With Telexfree I could speak to the DR including all mobile carriers, both mobiles and fixed phones, 3,000 minutes for just 50 dollars a month. All my family had VOIP services with Telexfree and we could call to more than 60 countries for free. My dauther in law is from Colombia and she was able to call her family as a call to Colombia with a local carrier is almost 0.47 cents a minute including taxes. Now we were getting ready for my finnancial advantage of Telexfree that was going to help a lot of people in my country and also for TelexMobile that was going to affect directly those thieves from the local Telephone companies. So I do not think that Telexfree stole anything from us, they was giving us a chance of participating in that market and selling the VOIP to others that needed it and make money for it. Nobody stands to defend Telexfree by saying what the directives said when they were down here in the Dominican Republic. They said to us in a presentation: 1. To not talk about investment because Telexfree was not an investment business 2. To not sell dreams to the people telling them that they were going to get rich 3. To not make loans or credits to buy accounts, they said to start with the cheapest and smallest account, as an associate to start selling a growing step by step 4. To not use online MLM calculators to show the people how much money they could win 5. That this was an MLM company, so people should focus in selling instead of only buying an account for posting. There are many enemies from Telexfree that are the Telephone companies, the government, the banks, the loterys, casinos and gambling companies, the leaders that did not applied the guidance and directions of the directives of Telexfree because those leaders just wanted more money into their pockets and desobeyed Telexfree on those rules, and much more. Telexfree made many mistakes in administration, communication and much more, I am clear in that, but they are not a ponzi Scheme, they are not the enemy and for sure the blame is not 100% from them as the enemies has their hands in everything that is happening. You might not agree with me, but I pray that will be God that show the reality in this, letting his justice be the one that finally guide the final deccision on this, showing the reality about Telexfree. I know ponzitracker is totally against Telexfree, you have your point of view, your rights to believe it and I respect that, but I do have my point of view and if you want to understand it a little bit come down to live in the Dominican Republic or to any country in LatinAmerica or Africa and you will see it. Thank you so much for the great work you have been and are doing keeping the tracks of this hearing for us on your blog with excellence, what allows us to feel like if we are right there in the Bankruptcy court of the honorable Judge August B. Landis. Thanks again.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJuana A. Garcia

Does anyone one know who the real owner is. And where is he?

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermike

In Dominican Republic Telexfree is 100% Ponzi. Just read the local news.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterCarlos

Carlos, you just gave and idea, I shared facts. I do not care about what the news says because news in my countries are managed by the enemies of Telexfree. I only care about what a judge says, and not even in Brazil or the United States they have been able to proof that it is a ponzi scheme. I believe and practice justice, and no justice has said or proclaim that Telexfree is a Ponzi Scheme. Not even in the Dominican Republic, so what news are saying is information without a foundation, without any deeper investigation. Thank you.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJuana A. Garcia

Juana. I don't think you have done your research and also you are part of telexfree as a promoter. Don't you feel bad for the people that has lost money or have killed them self . 6 of them . I only hope they get there money back. All those guys in telexfree on the board have done schemes like this over and over and get away with it. They don't care. They just start another company an do it again. If you don't care about Brazil and Dominican Republic shame on you. You know is a scheme and is a pyramid ok multilevel if you want to have a better word. Is been done for years and the people don't get the money in the end. Are you gonna tell me that there is a money back gurantee?.. and why you and people always say telexfree haters. Why? How do you know they are haters? Do telexfree teach you that? Do you preach that to the people on need desparate money? (Fast money). Let me guess if telexfree gets shut down for real are u gonna blame it in politics or haters? Is a pyramid juana. And is a Ponza scheme. The only way you make money in this schemes is to get in early and make it. The one one who suffer is the later people. You should be ashame of your self.
Btw. Am not a hater . Am for the people.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermike

Very good work Jordan!!! You are inside of the history!!!

About Carlos, all of this bulls**t you say is very common. Telexfree IS a ponzy scheme! Do you think CEO will say it without proof? Did you read the papers?

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterRodrigo

Mike, you try to say something, but you did not say anything. You did not even read the story about how Telexfree started. I have done more research than you for sure. I care about latinamericans more than you do, you know why, because when I write I put my complete name and may email to be contacted, I am talking with facts, the facts that I am even willing to present myself in front of the judge to share with him. By the way, with all respect, I will not loose my time with you because you are not the judge. Thanks for your comments.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterJuana A. Garcia

El proceso que Telexfree está pasando en estos momentos, es justamente lo que debía suceder, pues es un paso sumamente importante, porque creí en Telexfree por eso ingresé y sigo creyendo en Telexfree. Aquí en mi país Ecuador las operadoras de telefonía móvil y fija, son hasta ahora estafadores, muy caros y sus servicios muy pésimos. Con los planes de llamadas (VOIP) DE Telexfree economizar las llamadas. De más de 30 mil ecuatorianos recibimos ingresos extras, gracias a ellos teníamos pan para la familia. Buen trabajo de los directivos de Telexfree y ahora mismo estimado asesor de Telexfree, no debe preocuparse mucho porque está asistido por nuestro y único abogado todo poderoso, "NUESTRO PADRE CELESTIAL"
Adelante compañeros, que los jueces solamente harán lo que DIOS ordene Amen!!!

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterTankamash Taant

Yea . You will see a judge doing his work. And in the end you will understand. I know how telexfree started by the way. There is proof . Chapter 11 is:::::;;;:. . I know you think is good right? You think is for reorganizing? . Look. The top people already made money. They don't care if goes bad or good at this point. This chapter 11 is only to continue for a little while. That's it. Buy time. That's all.
Am happy for you that you put our whole name . Very nice. How do I know is you? How do I know ? You are very funny. I know more about telexfree than you know. The only news you know is what telexfree tell you. That's it. You are brain wash. And you are trying to get others too. I think you are in the Castro regime and also you are probably a very good promoter. The laws in us a very good and a lot of people takes advantage of it. There is a lot of lupus one can play. And this one is one of them. Juana don't you feel bad for the new comers? I ask you ? Let's say: the whole world joins telexfree. What would happend??.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered Commentermike

Juana, Tankamash: i don't buy your arguments, no se las compro. There are a bunch of other better and cheaper options than the 99telexfree VOIP stuff, Skype just for starters. Telexfree is a Ponzi scheme with much more people loosing lots of money than the few winning (beware of clawbacks!). Telexfree needs to be shutdown and their owners and top promoters put in jail. Take God out of your sick and twisted arguments.

May 2, 2014 | Unregistered CommenterMauricio

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